Chris, great answer! I’m going to push a little harder for a deeper answer. What about those white people who don’t have direct experience and aren’t moving in a more inclusive direction? How and who brings them around? I’m not referring to hardcore racists, but people who’ve simply lived in their own homogenous suburban bubble and haven’t dealt with people of color directly. Don’t laugh. I’m sure it’s happened more often than not; i.e., the woman from Marin you mentioned.